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Various extensions and tools have emerged over the years to improve the support MediaWiki offers people to communicate with one another on-wiki: <tvar name=1>{{ll|Structured Discussions}}</tvar> (Flow), <tvar name=2>{{ll|Extension:LiquidThreads|nsp=0}}</tvar>, <tvar name=3>{{ll|Extension:DiscussionTools|nsp=0}}</tvar> and [[<tvar name=4>c:Special:MyLanguage/User:Jack who built the house/Convenient Discussions</tvar>|Convenient Discussions]].

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This page offers an overview of these various extensions and how the features they offer compare to one another.

== Comparative Review == <!--T:3-->
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=== Main characteristics === <!--T:110-->

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Status of each tool, and their integration to the wiki's key features.
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{| class="wikitable"
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! scope="col" | {{ll|Extension:LiquidThreads|nsp=0}}
! scope="col" | {{ll|Structured Discussions}}
! scope="col" | {{ll|Extension:DiscussionTools|nsp=0}}
! scope="col" | [[commons:Special:MyLanguage/User:Jack_who_built_the_house/Convenient_Discussions|<translate><!--T:94--> Convenient Discussions</translate>]]
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! scope="row" | <translate><!--T:95--> Type of tool</translate>
| colspan="3" style="text-align:center" | <translate><!--T:96--> Mediawiki extension</translate>
| <translate><!--T:97--> Gadget/Userscript based on DiscussionTools</translate>
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! scope="row" | <translate><!--T:98--> Release status</translate>
| colspan="2" | <translate><!--T:99--> Unmaintained</translate>
| <translate><!--T:100--> Maintained (Wikimedia Foundation)</translate>
| <translate><!--T:101--> Maintained (Volunteers)</translate>
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! scope="row" | <translate><!--T:102--> Activation</translate>
| colspan="2" | <translate><!--T:103--> Pending removal</translate><ref>https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T332022</ref>
| <translate><!--T:104--> Wiki opt-in, user configurable</translate>
| <translate><!--T:105--> User opt-in and configurable</translate>
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!<translate><!--T:109--> Visual editing</translate>
|{{Not done}}
|{{Done}}
|{{Done}}
|{{Not done}}
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! scope="row" | <translate><!--T:35--> Backwards-compatibility with wikitext</translate>
| {{Not done}}
| {{Not done}}
| {{Done}} 
| {{Done}}
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!<translate><!--T:52--> Templates support</translate>
|{{Done}}
|{{Done}}
|{{Partially done}} – <translate><!--T:53--> Tables, templates and parser tags aren't allowed in replies in visual mode</translate>
|{{Done}}
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! scope="row" | <translate><!--T:58--> Full history integration with the rest of the wiki</translate>
| {{Done}}
| {{Not done}}
| {{Done}}
| {{Done}}
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! scope="row" | <translate><!--T:71--> Mobile web support</translate>
| {{Not done}}
| {{Done}}
| {{Done}}
| {{Not done}}
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! scope="row" | <translate><!--T:72--> Mobile app support</translate>
| {{Not done}}
| {{Not done}}
| {{Done}}
| {{Not done}}
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! scope="row" |<translate><!--T:54--> Permalink to a given comment</translate>
|{{Done}}
|{{Done}}
| colspan="2" |{{Partially done}} – <translate><!--T:55--> if the comment is not moved elsewhere.</translate><ref name="permalink" /><br />
{{In progress}}
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=== Discussion features === <!--T:113-->

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Interaction with talk pages and other comments. 
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! scope="col" | {{ll|Extension:LiquidThreads|nsp=0}}
! scope="col" | {{ll|Structured Discussions}}
! scope="col" | {{ll|Extension:DiscussionTools|nsp=0}}
! scope="col" | [[commons:Special:MyLanguage/User:Jack_who_built_the_house/Convenient_Discussions|<translate><!--T:118--> Convenient Discussions</translate>]]
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! scope="row" |<translate><!--T:5--> Dedicated workflow for starting a new topic</translate>
| {{Done}}
| {{Done}}
| {{Done}}
| {{Done}}
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!<translate><!--T:57--> Topic and contents preload</translate>
|{{Done}}
|{{Done}}
|{{Done}}
|{{Done}}
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!<translate><!--T:119--> Indication of new comments when you read a topic</translate>
|{{Not done}}
|{{Not done}}
|{{Done}}
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!<translate><!--T:62--> Indication of edited comments when you read a topic</translate>
|{{Done}}
|{{Done}}
|{{Not done}}
|{{Done}}
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!<translate><!--T:19--> Each topic is a different pages/each conversation has a permalink</translate>
|{{Done}}
|{{Done}}
|{{In progress}}<ref name="permalink"><translate><!--T:20--> Support for offering permanent links to talk page comments and topics is being worked on.</translate> <translate><!--T:106--> Links to comments already exist but aren't permanent without <tvar name="1">{{ll|Help:PermanentLink}}</tvar>.</translate> <translate><!--T:21--> See <tvar name="1">[[phab:T302011|T302011]]</tvar>.</translate> <translate><!--T:107--> While DiscussionTools doesn't have a UI for acquiring links, Convenient Discussions does and can automatically generate PermanentLinks.</translate></ref>
|{{In progress}}<ref name="permalink" />
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!<translate><!--T:29--> Move topics between pages</translate>
|{{Done}}
|{{Not done}} – <translate><!--T:30--> [[<tvar name="1">phab:T88140</tvar>|planned]] but not implemented</translate>
|{{Partially done}} – <translate><!--T:31--> via wikitext editing, breaks links.</translate><ref name="permalink" />
<translate><!--T:76--> See [[<tvar name="1">phab:T331932</tvar>|discussions on moving with the DiscussionTools UI]].</translate>
|{{Done}}
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!<translate><!--T:33--> Include discussions on another page and reply to them there</translate>
|{{Not done}}
|{{Not done}} – <translate><!--T:34--> [[<tvar name="1">phab:T134347</tvar>|planned]], including {{<tvar name=2>ll|Flow/Architecture#Big ideas</tvar>|cross-wiki transclusion}}, but not implemented</translate>
| colspan="2" |{{Done}} – <translate><!--T:80--> via [[<tvar name="1">Special:MyLanguage/Help:Transclusion</tvar>|transclusion]]</translate>
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!<translate><!--T:59--> Editing comments</translate>
|{{Done}}
|{{Done}}
|{{Partially done}} – <translate><!--T:60--> via wikitext editing the whole page or section.</translate> <translate><!--T:61--> See <tvar name="1">[[phab:T242562|T242562]]</tvar> and <tvar name="2">[[phab:T245225|T245225]]</tvar> for the editing of individual comments.</translate>
|{{Done}}
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!<translate><!--T:36--> Thank a comment from within the talk page</translate>
|{{Partially done}} – <translate><!--T:38--> via [[<tvar name="1">Special:MyLanguage/Help:Page history</tvar>|Page history]]</translate>
|{{Done}}
|{{Partially done}} – <translate><!--T:39--> via [[<tvar name="1">Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Thanks</tvar>|Thanks]] in Page history.</translate><br />{{In progress}} – <translate><!--T:40--> Work on supporting "Thanking" from the DiscussionTools UI is [[<tvar name="1">phab:T249893</tvar>|being tracked]].</translate>
|{{Done}}
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!<translate><!--T:42--> Sort topics by recent comment</translate>
|{{Done}}
|{{Done}}
|{{Not done}}
|{{Not done}}
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!<translate><!--T:43--> Sort topics by start date</translate>
|{{Done}}
|{{Done}}
|{{Not done}}
|{{Not done}}
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!<translate><!--T:44--> Summarize a discussion at the top of it</translate>
|{{Done}}
|{{Done}}
| colspan="2" |{{Partially done}} – <translate><!--T:88--> by editing opening comment.</translate>
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!<translate><!--T:46--> Mark a message as read or unread</translate>
|{{Done}}
|{{Not done}}
|{{Not done}}
|{{Not done}}
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!<translate><!--T:47--> Show/hide (collapse) subthreads</translate>
|{{Done}}
|{{Not done}}
|{{Not done}}
|{{Done}}
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=== Notifications and interactivity === <!--T:120-->

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! scope="col" | {{ll|Extension:LiquidThreads|nsp=0}}
! scope="col" | {{ll|Structured Discussions}}
! scope="col" | {{ll|Extension:DiscussionTools|nsp=0}}
! scope="col" | [[commons:Special:MyLanguage/User:Jack_who_built_the_house/Convenient_Discussions|<translate><!--T:124--> Convenient Discussions</translate>]]
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!<translate><!--T:69--> Highlight a set of unread comments</translate>
|{{Not done}}
|{{Done}}
|{{Done}} – <translate><!--T:70--> only when subscribed to a topic and using links from notifications</translate>
|{{Done}}
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!<translate><!--T:7--> Subscribe to be notified about new comments to a topic</translate>
| rowspan="2" |{{Done}} – <translate><!--T:17--> via <tvar name=1>{{ll|Manual:watchlist|nsp=0}}</tvar></translate>
| colspan="2" rowspan="2" |{{Done}} – <translate><!--T:8--> via Echo</translate>
| rowspan="2" |{{Done}} – <translate><!--T:84--> via Echo or itself</translate>
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!<translate><!--T:11--> Be notified when a new topic is started on a talk page</translate>
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!<translate><!--T:15--> Auto-subscription to a topic you created</translate>
| colspan="4" |{{Done}} – <translate><!--T:16--> default</translate>
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!<translate><!--T:68--> Highlight a quoted comment</translate>
|{{Not done}} – <translate><!--T:81--> can link to comments but only as standalone pages</translate>
|{{Done}}
|{{Done}}
|{{Done}}
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!<translate><!--T:63--> Notification of edited comments</translate>
|{{Partially done}} – <translate><!--T:64--> only on your own comments</translate>
|{{Done}}
|{{Not done}}
|{{Not done}}
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=== Maintenance and moderation === <!--T:125-->
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! scope="col" | {{ll|Structured Discussions}}
! scope="col" | {{ll|Extension:DiscussionTools|nsp=0}}
! scope="col" | [[commons:Special:MyLanguage/User:Jack_who_built_the_house/Convenient_Discussions|<translate><!--T:129--> Convenient Discussions</translate>]]
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!<translate><!--T:65--> Direct access to user talkpage, contribs and more</translate>
|{{Partially done}} – <translate><!--T:66--> if linked in the signature</translate>
|{{Done}}
| colspan="2" |{{Partially done}} – <translate><!--T:67--> if linked in the signature</translate>
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!<translate><!--T:22--> Hide (moderate) a comment</translate>
| rowspan="2" |{{Partially done}} – <translate><!--T:87--> no undelete UI</translate>
|{{Done}}
| rowspan="2" |{{Partially done}} – <translate><!--T:24--> via [[<tvar name="1">Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Reverts</tvar>|undo/rollback]] (requires searching for edit in edit history) or archival templates, not included and requires editing wikitext</translate>
|{{Done}}
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!<translate><!--T:25--> Hide or delete a topic</translate>
|{{Done}}
|{{Partially done}} – <translate><!--T:108--> same as DiscussionTools</translate>
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!<translate><!--T:78--> Archiving discussions</translate>
|{{Partially done|{{not needed}}}}
|{{Partially done|{{not needed}}}}
|{{Not done}} – <translate><!--T:79--> see <tvar name="1">[[phab:T337293|T337293]]</tvar></translate>

* <translate><!--T:82--> Requires 3rd party bots for automatic archival</translate>
* <translate><!--T:83--> Requires wikitext editing or 3rd party gadgets for manual archival</translate>
|{{Not done}} – <translate><!--T:91--> Same as DiscussionTools, though moving topics can be used for manual archival.</translate>
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! scope="row" |<!--T:73--> Report an inappropriate comment
| {{Not done}}
| {{Not done}}
| {{In progress}}<ref>[[phab:T339247|T339247]] – <translate><!--T:74--> Create entry points for the Incident Report dialog with DiscussionTools</translate></ref>
| {{Not done}}
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== References == <!--T:75-->
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